Global warming lies and climate change hysteria
It seems the more that science supports notions the world is warming because man is pumping CO2 and other greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, the more strident become some of the chief deniers n sceptics; at times, can almost see rabid righties frothing at the mouth. Lately, been some ballyhoo about a Channel 4 documentary, The Great Global Warming Swindle - in which, argued the sun is behind recent changes, and several scientists wheeled out as sceptics re greenhouse gases. But, seemed that show employed smoke n mirrors. Here are excerpts of transcript of ABC (Australia) interview with American scientist Carl Wunsch, Professor of oceanography at the Massachussetts Institute of Technology, who was interviewed for the documentary - appeared in original version, but whose remarks were eventually edited from the work.
I was told that this was to be a film about the science of global warming, and that it would be an opportunity for me to explain that it is a very complicated problem ... There are a number of issues. There's one point in the film where I was attempting to explain that the ocean contains a very large amount of carbon dioxide that is there naturally. ...
It was put into the film in such a way, in the context that it was put to have me saying that, "Well, carbon dioxide occurs naturally in the ocean and so whatever is going on is all natural," which in some sense turned my point on its head. Or if you like, completely removing the main point, which is while the carbon dioxide in the ocean is primarily there naturally, having it expelled through warming is not necessarily natural. ...
What I thought I was doing, as I said, was making a film about the science of global warming. ...
It's not a science film at all. It's a political statement. ... The changes that we're seeing today are consistent with a great deal of what we know about the climate system, where there's very little argument about the effects. So, for example, adding carbon dioxide very rapidly that is over periods of decades, which nature doesn't do itself, we can calculate, these are calculations that go back almost 100 years, how much the earth should warm on average. We tend to see that the pattern of warming where more of it takes place at the poles are consistent with an anthropogenic input. Is there is no proof? Well, there is no proof, but science is very rarely about proof, science is about plausibility. Most of the people who work in this subject without guaranteeing anything will say, "It seems very likely that we are seeing human induced warming because it is taking place on time scales that nature does not normally produce". There is the argument in that film that it's all due to the sun. There is absolutely no evidence, apart from the distortions they made in the graphs in that film in the version that I saw, there's no absolutely no evidence that what we're seeing is due to solar forcing. Will I guarantee what we're seeing is due to anthropogenic causes? No. Do I think it's very likely that it is due to anthropogenic causes, and we should react on that basis? Yes, I do, it's very worrying.
Update, 22 July 2008, from the Independent:
A Channel 4 documentary which claimed that the idea of man-made climate change was a fraud and a conspiracy has been censured by the broadcasting regulator. Ofcom.The Great Global Warming Swindle, written and directed by Martin Durkin, misrepresented the views of the Government's former chief scientific adviser Sir David King, Ofcom said yesterday in a long-awaited judgement.
The programme was further found to have unfairly treated Sir David, the American oceanographer Professor Carl Wunsch and the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and to have breached the section of the Broadcasting Code relating to impartiality.
...The broadcast angered Britain's science community, from the Royal Society down, who accused Mr Durkin of distorting evidence and playing fast and loose with the facts.
Several people who took part said their views had been misrepresented, including Professor Wunsch, of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and Dr Eigil Friis-Christensen, the director of the Danish National Space Centre.
...
The Great Global Warming Swindle was welcomed by a number of right-wing commentators – strange bedfellows for someone with connections to Living Marxism – but sometimes the far right and the far left have much in common.
C4's climate change documentary 'was unfair but not misleading'
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Climate sceptics and US based conservative think tanks
From an article in the New Statesman:
The global warming deniers
not all those who are called scientists are really scientist
It seems there's some sort of contest among US right wingers to see who can stoop the lowest in writing the crassest hyperbole regarding global warming. CBS should be ashamed of hosting an opinion piece I've come across. Includes:
Entertainment lawsuit guy not fun in hysterical paranoid ran
An especially crass piece on some US website, Town Hall - by a guy who has no science background, but was lately "a litigator in high profile entertainment matters" - gets it completly wrong re warming, figuring the issue's only about politics [it's real if your a leftie: bizarre notion to me]. Not just hysteria, but paranoia as well; and profound, worrying ignorance about the world we live in - where actions do have consequences that can't b willed away just because you wish the world was a certain way. Includes:
Viscount Monckton tumbles into his own trap
Here's another letter I've sent the South China Morning Post, responding to letter from Viscount Monckton.
The Sen Inhofe vs Mike Tyson science showdown
If I remember rightly, one of fights by fearsome heavyweight boxer Mike Tyson was against a guy a pundit described as "Not even a household name in his own household."
I'm reminded of this through reading of Senator James Inhofe trotting out a report for senate, with quotes and stuff from over 400 "prominent scientists". Claims to refute science re anthropogenic global warming.
Yet, turns out many of these people aren't prominent; and goodly number not even scientists - include tv weathermen and economists.
Maybe some non-too knowledgeable people will be hoodwinked by Inhofe, again trying to show there is debate/uncertainty where nothing so significant exists; and his report has been subject of some media reports, and of course picked up by right wing websites.
But, it's overwhelmingly baloney.
For more on this, see, for instance:
Inhofe (R-Exxon): Truthiness Gift for Christmas
Bogus climate change info from International Policy Network
Here's a letter I recently had published in the South China Morning Post, in response to an opinion piece from the grandiose sounding International Policy Network.
I love my SUV
At ThinkProgress, there's an article re couple of Republican candidates for US election and their somewhat zany views re global warming, inc Thompson's rather curious notions:
Wall Street Journal makes vacuous attack on Al Gore science
One of the best rude remarks by an MP in Britain's Houses of Parliament was that being (verbally) attacked by him was, "Like being worried by a dead sheep."
Al Gore might be thinking much the same, after woeful commentary in Wall Street Journal by one Holman Jenkins Jr (who he?).
The piece is supposedly some sort of critique of global warming science, yet it is totally lacking re actual science, indeed shows no understanding whatsoever of science; and you can be darn sure there's no mention of the IPCC (which shared the Nobel with Gore) and the many scientists who contribute to its reports, or of the over 200 scientists who have signed the Bali Declaration out of concerns the situation is becoming critical, and action is needed.
Jenkins puff piece includes;
since we're talking science here, where's Jenkins justification for this sweeping generality?
what complete and utter bollocks
Is Jenkins for real? This seems more like he's considering a career as a stand up comedian.
The Science of Gore's Nobel
Rush Limbaugh clueless re science
Wired News has item on some guff from Rush Limbaugh - who's evidently a right wing ranter who's famous in the US - inc comment that, "we are so insignificant. We couldn't cause global warming; we couldn't cause global cooling; we can't do diddly-squat. We're just inhabitants here."
Rush Limbaugh Takes On Quantum Physics (and Global Warming)
I've added comment, including:
Nigel Lawson another old bloke talking twaddle
A few days ago, I noticed on Google News an item with speech by Nigel Lawson - father of luscious cook Nigella, and former UK chancellor - to a New Zealand business group, in which he ridiculed global warming. Can't find his speech text just now; but remember it had something re IPCC saying warming would cause only v small slowdown in rate of global economy rise: something which surprised me, and which I can't find in IPCC synthesis report (which does, however, suggest wouldn't slow economy much to take measures to mitigate against warming: I'm not sure if Lord Lawson hadn't confused this with effect of warming).
Also, he suggested that IPCC scenarios set warming in next hundred years as no more than 4C; actually, can find 6.4C as highest figure. He had puerile way of suggesting a 3C rise (cherry picking the average forecast) by saying we can live in places from Helsinkin to Singapore: smacks of stupidity as well as smugness, with no notion of effects on ecosystems, which are already showing strains w far smaller warming; and of fact the IPCC says warming to continue for centuries: so if old farts like Lawson have their way, many generations of people will have to deal with warming impacts.
New Zealand Herald quoted Lawson as saying:
- yes, and Lawson has clearly staked his place on the side of unreason, aiming to discount concerns of scientists who actually know about climate, ecosystems and so forth, while trying to tell business people that it's ok to keep on as we are - after all, Lawson can expect to be dead and gone by the time the main climate change impacts are felt.
Guardian website has long blog post criticising Lawson for his stance. Includes:
Learn to swim
Climate change sceptics can no longer argue with the evidence that the planet is warming. Instead they say we'll just have to adapt
Cry baby sceptics suffer bias only in their brains
BBC News website has strong series on global warming scepticism, by environment editor Rickard Black. One article looks at supposed bias within science against sceptics, who like to allege their views are muffled. Includes:
John Coleman and outrageous scamming
Over on ICECAP - some website I hadn't heard of that likes to decry global warming - there's short item by John Coleman that's attracted attention on right-wing blogs and in the Daily Telegraph. Includes:
Weather Channel Founder: Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’
Ah, he's read "dozens of papers". And this the man who has been quoted as saying "Being a TV weatherman in San Diego is an outrageous scam,"
John Coleman
Now, the Daily Telegraph ran article on Coleman's thoughts, w article calling him "Weather Channel boss" - not noticing, it seems, he was turfed out of the Weather Chalnnal some years ago, and the channel now presents info on global warming issue.
Ah well, seems Coleman's effort has proved another straw to clutch at for global warming denialists.
One more thing that occurred to me, after seeing re Coleman: denialists seem to often be getting on in years; maybe they care little re the future, figuring they won't see much of it, so doesn't really matter what they say or write.
Vivian Gray too blinkered to save?
News piece on Canada.com has some pretty damning looking claims re IPCC, by one Vivian Gray. Includes:
IPCC too blinkered and corrupt to save
I hadn't heard of Vincent Gray. Did a bit of googling, and noticed that - like me - he has a PhD in chemistry from Cambridge University; so far so good, perhaps.
But then, found a short profile on DeSmogBlog - where it says
Vincent Gray
- hmm, a member of a committee that refuses to disclose funding sources... - and the IPCC is corrupt, eh?
Predicting hard so no worry says American Idiot
A scientific paper that's just out says that it's impossible to predict with certainty just how bad climate change will be (I've posted to new thread re this). Led to one of the most stupid blog posts I've seen, on American "Thinker". Includes:
We can\'t control the weather says Newsbusters Duh!
Newsbonkers (err, Newsbusters) perhaps a perennial place of silliness re global warming: never mind science, let's try n blast liberals. Tho complains of liberal bias in (US) media, got a couple of items appreciating a tv report trotting out stale arguments and same old scientists (err, Timothy Ball as a climate change expert? puhleaze, good for Ballocks is all), and arguing climate change is a none issue. In one item, mysteriously says: "Despite recent developments, man can't control the weather, much less the climate. " Err, Hello - we're not talking about controlling the climate; this is about changing it adversely, by accident. Got some posters who might be trying to be comedians, or perhaps are serious, with things like:
Hitler Goebbels and Carl Sagan quoted in daft attack on Gore
The Conservative Voice - a US website - carries one of the battiest articles by a skeptic I've seen yet. Attempts to attack Al Gore, but just looks seriously off-kilter. Includes guff like:
Lomborg book deeply dissatisfying ignorant and shallow
I've never really liked Bjorn Lomborg, who shot to fame as supposed former environmentalist w claims that should we attempt to combat warming, we'd waste money that could be used to help the world in other ways. Always struck me as being rather like saying well, the house may be on fire but battling the fire will be tough, and would mean we couldn't do so much work to re-paint the walls and improve the upholstery - and anyway, some people say the fire won't be too bad. Strikes me, too, as very self important fellow. Already seen his claims re being former environmentalist even dodgier than Timothy Ball's re being expert on man-made climate change. Knew of new Lomborg book; haven't even laid eyes on it. Glad to see review in Globe and Mail that slams the book - tho sadly, the idiots who take comfort in Lomborgism will surely like the book, which can help them continue living in fools' paradise where can drive SUVs and burn and consume and burn without consequence. From the review:
Timothy Ball befuddled by all inc CO2 as greenhouse gas
Really, many a global warming "skeptic" should be more laughable than treated as if serious people.
Retired Canadian professor Timothy Ball makes a strong bid for being among the more comical denialists. Heck, I have a thread here suggesting Comical Ali has been recruited to say global warming isn't real, but a few minutes reading about Timothy Ball and find he almost outdoes Comical Ali.
I just noticed Timothy Ball's name in news item on National Geographic; this includes:
Global Warming Inaction More Costly Than Solutions?
Reading this, looked like some Ballocks in these quotes; including the very strange "it is assumed that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas that will trap heat in the atmosphere". Note to ex-Prof Ball - and Nat Geo news team: carbon dioxide is a known greenhouse gas that traps heat in the atmosphere. See, for instance:
NCDC:Greenhouse Gases from National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
Interesting, too, that Ball alleges the greenhouse effect hypothesis had political origins. Yet, read a little and soon find Ball is associated with groups etc funded by oil industry money. One of them dubbed Friends of Science - a name George Orwell could have loved, as questions science change, does not disclose funding sources yet perhaps gets money from oil industry etc.
Friends of Science - Wikipedia entry
There's strong article by Charles Montgomery, which first appeared in the Globe and Mail, centred on Timothy Ball. Includes:
Mr. Cool
Nurturing doubt about climate change is big business
See also brief Bio of Ball, w some of his Ballocks, on DeSmogBlog.
Dr. Tim Ball: The Lie that Just Won't Die
From here and other info, soon find he can't even get basic facts about himself right, let alone re warming: has claimed to have been a professor for 32 year - true figure, 8 years; and to have the first PhD in climatology, when others had such PhDs before him: and his PhD in science/geography. Plus, maybe only four papers published in peer reviewed journals; none dealing with human impacts on climate; none since he retired in 1996.
Hardly seems the right guy, then, to make assertions like "The majority of the scientists who are on the Kyoto and global warming bandwagon know nothing about the science..." Err, Doc Ball - do you happen to have a mirror handy? - look in it and you might recognise yourself here.
The unstoppable Fred Singer
Read a little re global warming, and you soon find that the skeptics aka denialists include only few actual scientists - one of the most prominent being Fed Singer, a professor of environment in US.
Back in 2003, Singer was such a sceptic that he announced:
"there is no convincing evidence that the global climate is actually warming."
Yet lately, with non-scientist Avery, he has co-authored a book:
Unstoppable Global Warming Every 1500 Years
- so gone from no warming, to unstoppable warming!
This book, of course, seems to be music to the ears of righties who wanna keep on burning up our oil and so forth, believing or kidding themselves this can't have any impact, never mind the weight of scientific evidence (haven't seen the Unstoppable book, but seems it appears weighty, yet I've read of authors only considering summaries of papers, cherry picking info, and even ignoring fact that at least one paper concludes anthropogenic warming is significant).
Realclimate has post rebutting some of key points made by Avery in talk he gave about the book:
Avery and Singer: Unstoppable hot air
You can read about Prof Singer, and his links to ExxonMobil money, on ExxoSecrets.org:
S. Fred Singer
while there's more on Fred on DeSmogBlog:
S. Fred Singer - notes recent report that "Singer is affiliated with no less than 11 think tanks and associations that have received funding from ExxonMobil," adding. "Singer's own "Science and Environmental Policy Project" (SEPP) has recieved $20,000 from ExxonMobil."
Some US evangelicals alarmed by reality of warming?
From website called CitizenLink - where can also learn stuff such as re crisis over sexuality.
Just some hint, here, that there's alarmism among evangelicals as the science becomes stronger re global warming being real, and being really a problem.
This alone alarms me!
Now, surely evangelicals of all people should not be prone to being, errr, economical with the truth. For here's a statement that comes without being substantiated - as indeed it can't be, for as has been shown time and again, the vast majority of science on the issue shows that global warming as a result of greenhouse gases is real, and is really a problem.
hmm, so a few people among evangelicals who may have started thinking for themselves on the issue, reading some of the science, being told what to do - Come along, be good sheep, do as we say and never mind those scientist people, and those rising temperatures, and those signs that storms are increasing as glaciers and Arctic ice melt, there is trouble - and just maybe we are being woefully inept stewards of the Creation.
I see - so if you happen to be in an area that's struck by another major hurricane as the powerful cyclones increase, or you're affected by long term drought or major floods, just make sure you have a strong family...
Global Warming Not High on Evangelicals' Priority List
Hopefully, we'll see more evangelicals start to use their brains, and start to realise that having stewardship over the creation means that should be able to look after it; and to do so, should change our ways. Changes predicted with warming will impact families far more than any action we might take to alleviate warming.
Indeed, have to wonder: why is it that some prominent evangelical types seem so opposed to doing things that might benefit our planet, and future generations?
Global warming secular religion and jihadists!
Seems the better the science underlying global warming, the greater the hysteria, with commentators trying to outdo themselves with stupidity of their prose.
Carl Thomas (who he?) maybe saw the nuttiness re Nuremberg Trials, and decided he could do better. Here, from an article in Salt Lake Tribune, are couple of his loopiest sentences:
- Oh dear, the poor lad seems to be almost frothing at the mouth here.
does, though, insert some truth, in what's perhaps a Freudian slip:
- indeed! How often have you noticed the sceptics are supported by energy companies, and/or are died-in-the-wool righties?
Thomas: Logic of global warming jihadists: So much hot air
A lie from Hawaii re Nuremberg Trials
The skeptics' lobby seems more alarmed by the day. Michael Fox, PhD - who worked in the energy industry (hmm....) has penned a piece in Hawaii reporter, which includes pooh-poohing fears re ozone hole, and this:
Accuracy in Media way off-target re science
Just seen rather loopy piece on the Newsweek feature by group calling itself AIM - Accuracy in Media ("accurate" being from far-right distorted perspective? - front page stories include one explaining "It is fascinating to watch how our liberal media treat the Bush Administration on foreign policy matters.)
Similar to Newsbusters; even refers to the Newsbonkers story as "fascinating".
Trots out various assertions re warming - could be the sun etc, along with quotes from usual suspects, inc Inhofe, Bob Carter.
Also indulges in some stupid fearmongering re calls for change to slow warming:
- Small-minded, blinkered, blithering idiocy, pandering to gormless right-wingers in the US of A. And with no realisation there is actual science behind global warming - and behind showing sun isn't sole cause of recent warming.
No awareness there is far more at stake than simply "the American way of life", whatever that is.
If you've a strong stomach, or curious re how global warming hysteria looks in US, see:
Newsweek Burns Truth in Global Warming Story
Nuttiness at Newsbusters
If you want some hysteria and distorted information on global warming, seems the site Newsbusters is as good a place to look as any. Despite trying to pooh-pooh science re warming, seems happy enough to agree that warming is happening when it seems things might be ok - as a few in Russia suggest (about, err, Russia, not the planet as a whole). In a piece by some geezer billed as "economist, business owner..." (so, not a scientist then), quotes source saying:
Galileo was a scientist not political pundit
Newsweek article, Climate Change Deniers: a Well Funded Machine has various folk in the scepticism business hot under the collar.
Includes writer in Investor's Business Daily, whose piece for some reason includes:
Chilling Effect
- it's of course barking mad to make such an argument, for the "consensus" versus Galileo's false doctrine was based on religion, not science [again, w Copernicus and Columbus, science was on their side]. Much as the arguments vs global warming being non-issue are predominantly political based, while overwhelming scientific research/evidence backs global warming being major problem.
Were Galileo alive today, he would recognise the potential perils of global warming; he was a scientist, not a political pundit.
Heartland Institute really the Heartless Institute?
I posted the following in response to an item on scienceblogs.com:
- and promptly received an email from the institute.
My post was prompted by a scienceblog post, titled:
Alarmist global warming claims melt under scientific scrutiny?
- after article of same name in Chigaco Times, which had - as you might expect - some of the silly stuff from righties and their ilk.
The blog post cited an article on Heartland Institute cite, with title:
Himalayan Glaciers Are Growing ... and Confounding Global Warming Alarmists
This article includes statement:
- which startled me, so googled for info. Readily found, and press release from Newcastle University on the paper says:
Mountain climate change trends could predict water resources Mountain climate change trends could predict water resources
- so the paper refers to just one area of the Himalayas, where results (and conditions) differ from those elsewhere.
Selective use of info by the institute, then - distorting the truth close enough to lying, I figure.
Anyways, my email from the institute was a generic one, included:
I emailed Tom back, saying they are trying to say global warming is a non issue; I'm trying to highlight science showing it's major problem. (Should have also mentioned he was being patronising here). No response.
Wikipedia entry on the institute tells of them receiving substantial funding from Exxon.
Also, institute has long been pro-smoking, with money from Philip Morris, among others:
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Heartland_Institute
So, I suggest a name change, to the Heartless Institute.
Global warming swindler
Here's response I posted to an article by Martin Durkin in the Australian, Up against the warming zealots. Response not posted; dunno why.
Plenty more re his dodgy documentary on Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle
- includes, if you scroll down, rebuttals from scientists, including this in press release from the Royal Society: